New water and gas probes

Hi everybody,

My new sensors just arrived and installed them. Then i went into the software to make port 4 and 5 active. ALso i've put in the correct name and constant so I have a beautifull chart in the end.

But now I've saved everything but I don't see my sensors in my account :(.
As a test I change the name of my current electricity clamp but no change name but he still works.

Anybody with good advice? I can't seem to fix this one.

Thanks in advance :)

jgysenbergs's picture

Do your sensors appear in the system log? You did add the sensors in your account at flukso.net, yes? - JG

GeorgesVDR's picture

Nop they are not in the system log... Only the one from the clamp. I enables them in the sensor page but they don't appear. But I did not add any sensors to my account because you can only add a flukso device no sensors. Or am I wrong?

jgysenbergs's picture

Sorry, I'm wrong. The sensors with their token should appear automatically after a while. Try resetting the FLM by pulling the power plug for a few seconds and wait till all the LEDs light up like they should. Takes a few minutes!

GeorgesVDR's picture

I tried it for two time but I will try it again. But still no succes on this :(

GeorgesVDR's picture

Keep having the same problem... FLukso.net can't find any gas or water sensor...
And no token to be found in the system log. What else can i do :p

on3ptz's picture

Did you test the sensors with a digital volt meter ?
You can test them with the beep function.

lila65's picture

I'm having the same problem. I configured the new FLM2 (I have 2 FLM1 active too), but without seeing the probes. What time does it take to become active ?

GeorgesVDR's picture

It seem to be that my problem was related to the constant value of the water probe.
You can not use a comma (,). You need to use a point (.). That solved it after a power cycle :)

Hope this helps you...

lila65's picture

I used the . from the beginning. I tried now with another account. I supposed the problem could have been the mix of FLM1 and FLM2 on the same account. But even on the other account I get no gas/water/electricity graphs. In the syslog I don't see the probes either.

lila65's picture

I reset all paramaters in the sensor page and completed them again. Problem solved now.
Now I can start analysing the water usage .... all day-all night apparently I'm using water. For the interested check account lila66, which are my FLM2.

fusionpower's picture

The all day all night usage, is this an error?
Have you compared your Flukso figures to the actual water meter figures?
I hope to add water logging to my Flukso as currently i wouldn't know if i had a pipe leaking and adding a small constant usage. I would be interested to hear what you find is causing your all day and all night usage.

B2O's picture

Any idea's of the length I can extend the cable attached to the probe? There is approximately 25m between the meter and the Fluko which is happy secured in my fuse box.

jgysenbergs's picture

As these are simple on/off (reed) switches, I presume you can have any length of cable. - JG

GeorgesVDR's picture

Depending on with read switch you have and THE résistance wires, you can extensie them.

lila65's picture

I installed the gas probe on a BK-G6 instead of a BK-G4 and don't get any signal. Anybody tried that ?

GeorgesVDR's picture

I have done the same and don't see any signal either. But I extended my cords so I do not know if this is the problem or not.

lila65's picture

my cable is not extended. I read the technical documentation of BK-G4 and BK-G6 and they should be identical (even for the parameters).

lila65's picture

With a magnet the sensor detects. Could it be that the BK-G6 has no magnet in it ? Or should it be read at a different place ?

gebhardm's picture

Corresponding to the spec the BK-G6 has a default magnet built in (see link above); maybe it is on a different position; try with a compass (or a magnet on a string) to actually find it...

cdr's picture

I fixed my BK-G4 GAS detector reed switch by adding a small LED to the wire. Turns out I had to use some pressure to detect the signal. (signal happens when meter is between 9 and 0)

It's nice to be able to see pulses anyway.

My 34 cents (for the LED)

icarus75's picture

@jgysenbergs There's no need to reset the FLM to have the active sensors added to your account. A save of the sensor page will trigger a synchronisation with both the sensor board and the Flukso server. If the reloaded sensor page reports a successful synchronisation, you're all set.
@GeorgesVDR You indeed need to use the dot as a decimal separator for the meter constants.
@lila65 FLM01's and 02's can be freely mixed on a single Flukso user account. The only caveat is that you have to make sure no duplicate sensor names exist
for a single sensor type (electricity, water, gas) under a single account. E.g. you cannot have two gas sensors called 'main' under the same lila65 account. But you can have a main water sensor AND a main gas sensor under the same account.
@lila65 I've compared your water usage to mine. Looks ok to me. If you look at the night tab, you'll see a flow of about 20lperday or about 1.5cl per minute. A slowly leaking tab or toilet could be the culprit.
@B2O You can extend the probes for several meters. No problem there.
@lila65 Make sure you push the gas sensor into the cavity with the FLUKSO print facing upwards and the cable exiting the cavity on the left. Also verify that the sensor is pulled to the front of the cavity which is where it will be most sensitive. The easiest way to test is by having a hot water tap running (to force gas usage and thus rotating meter dials) and checking the local syslog web page for pulses. Directly hooking up a multimeter in continuity checking mode will of course give you even more direct feedback.
@cdr A series LED will result in about a 2V drop across the LED. This might prevent pulses from being detected. It's a nice debugging help though.

GeorgesVDR's picture

Somebody is back from holiday :)! Everythings seem to work from this weekend and I can inform everybody that a BK-G6 also works with the flukso sensor.

icarus75's picture

Day 2 and still ploughing through my inbox. Darn.

Thanks for the feedback on the BK-G6. I've updated the gas probe page to include this variant.

jgysenbergs's picture

Thank you very much. This is all so useful information - JG

lila65's picture

@icarus75 I tried what the way you proposed to fix the gas sensor, bu whitout success. No reading.

icarus75's picture

@lila65 If you cannot get any reading from the gas sensor then return the probe. We'll subject it to some tests and provide you with a replacement unit if needed.